old man joe
2009-11-24 13:26:40 UTC
the whole idea of an eternal, burning, tormenting hell into which all unbeliever's go
teaches that unbeliever's have eternal life. so then, not only do the elect of God have
eternal life but all persons have eternal life... believer's an unbeliever's alike.
such an idea that unbeliever's come into the world with eternal life is found nowhere in
Holy Scripture. some try to prove it by isolating the parable of the rich man and Lazarus
from the rest of the Bible and thus violate a basic premise of Biblical interpretation of
comparing Scripture with Scripture.
there comes then the need to change a great number of passages to fit the idea of
unbeliever's being born into the world with eternal life. one such passage would be
Ro. 6:23. it would then have to read... ' For the wages of sin is eternal life, but the
free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. " but the passage read's...
" For the wages of sin is death. "
after all, Christ paid the penalty for the sins of His elect ones, which was death. if
there was such a thing as an eternal, tormenting, burning hell into which one pay's for
all eternity the penalty of sin, then rightfully Christ would still be in eternal,
tormenting, burning hell so as to fully pay for the penalty of sin.
this one fact escapes everyone espousing an eternal hell for unbeliever's.
in 1 Cor. 15:51- 56 Paul goes on to say that at the return of Christ, commonly called the
Rapture, the bodies of His elect will be raised incorruptible while no mention is made of
the unbelieving non-elect as being raised. what then became of the unbeliever's who have
eternal life also ?
the fact is, they are dead. these came into the world at birth dead in trespasses and
sin's ( Ps. 58:3; Eph. 2:1-3 ) where then did they get eternal life since Adam and Eve
lost that in the Garden when they transgressed ?
" They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise: therefore
hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish. " Is. 26:14
when God says " they are dead, they shall not live " and that " they shall not rise "
means exactly that.... no unbeliever has eternal life. which will win... denominational
tradition or the Word of God ?
immortality is a pagan Greek idea popularized by the philosopher's of ancient Greece.
other cultures had such idea's but the Greek philosopher's are the ones who influenced
pagan Roman thought which eventually trickled into the pagan Christianity the Church of
Rome is famous for. the wages of sin for which Christ paid the penalty of for the sins of
His elect ones was His death.
it is wholly without warrant to say unbeliever's terminate in a conscience, burning,
eternal, tormenting hell fire when the Bible says to the contrary. such is used as a tool
to scare people into " accepting Jesus as their Lord and Savior " so co-redemption and the
pride of personal achievement will win out over salvation by grace alone.
teaches that unbeliever's have eternal life. so then, not only do the elect of God have
eternal life but all persons have eternal life... believer's an unbeliever's alike.
such an idea that unbeliever's come into the world with eternal life is found nowhere in
Holy Scripture. some try to prove it by isolating the parable of the rich man and Lazarus
from the rest of the Bible and thus violate a basic premise of Biblical interpretation of
comparing Scripture with Scripture.
there comes then the need to change a great number of passages to fit the idea of
unbeliever's being born into the world with eternal life. one such passage would be
Ro. 6:23. it would then have to read... ' For the wages of sin is eternal life, but the
free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. " but the passage read's...
" For the wages of sin is death. "
after all, Christ paid the penalty for the sins of His elect ones, which was death. if
there was such a thing as an eternal, tormenting, burning hell into which one pay's for
all eternity the penalty of sin, then rightfully Christ would still be in eternal,
tormenting, burning hell so as to fully pay for the penalty of sin.
this one fact escapes everyone espousing an eternal hell for unbeliever's.
in 1 Cor. 15:51- 56 Paul goes on to say that at the return of Christ, commonly called the
Rapture, the bodies of His elect will be raised incorruptible while no mention is made of
the unbelieving non-elect as being raised. what then became of the unbeliever's who have
eternal life also ?
the fact is, they are dead. these came into the world at birth dead in trespasses and
sin's ( Ps. 58:3; Eph. 2:1-3 ) where then did they get eternal life since Adam and Eve
lost that in the Garden when they transgressed ?
" They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise: therefore
hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish. " Is. 26:14
when God says " they are dead, they shall not live " and that " they shall not rise "
means exactly that.... no unbeliever has eternal life. which will win... denominational
tradition or the Word of God ?
immortality is a pagan Greek idea popularized by the philosopher's of ancient Greece.
other cultures had such idea's but the Greek philosopher's are the ones who influenced
pagan Roman thought which eventually trickled into the pagan Christianity the Church of
Rome is famous for. the wages of sin for which Christ paid the penalty of for the sins of
His elect ones was His death.
it is wholly without warrant to say unbeliever's terminate in a conscience, burning,
eternal, tormenting hell fire when the Bible says to the contrary. such is used as a tool
to scare people into " accepting Jesus as their Lord and Savior " so co-redemption and the
pride of personal achievement will win out over salvation by grace alone.