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The Atheists challenge the elect saying there is no proof of any God... as though they can accept real proof of God...
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old man joe
2009-12-15 10:19:47 UTC
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it's interesting to realize the extent of the delusion God says He send's on unbeliever's.

and He indeed send's delusion on them as we read in 1 Ki. 22:22; Ez. 14:9; 2 Thes. 2:1-12.

the heart's of those against God begin their life against Him from birth, ( Ps. 58:3 )
they do so not of their free will but of what is imposed by God on all of mankind because
of the sin of Adam. everyone is born estranged from God unless the Living God intervenes
giving someone of His choice life and the faith of Jesus Christ. Eph. 1:3-12

the Bible word " estranged " in Ps. 58:3 means to be a stranger... Paul illustrates this
in Eph. 2:12 when he tells us that even the elect of God were once dead in trespasses and
sins, stranger's from all of God's covenants of promise, alien's having no hope, as well
as coming into this world at birth as " atheos "... atheists... rendered " without God. "

mighty is the condemnation placed upon man as he comes into world at birth.

how then, since sin is the darkness with which man is born into the world, it being the
vehicle by which the Atheist understands the world around him, how then will he ever come
to accept the truth of God ? he comes into this world as an alien and goes out as an
alien bypassed for the saving grace of God in Christ... of course he will accept no proof
of God though the Living God should appear to him face to face... remember that Jesus
Christ, Emmanuel... God with us... walked the earth and many have seen Him, the Living
God, face to face which profited them nothing... as with Judas.

all the words of life eternal that were heard by the eleven were heard also by Judas. no
power to save by these many words of Christ were ever applied to Judas. as with all
Atheist's, Judas was one of whom the Word of God had no life changing power. and since the
same Word of God has power to change lives in those who's names He's written in His Book
of Life, it is assured that some perish by the Word while other's who are chosen believe
unto life by the same Word as we read in Acts 13:14-48.

it then becomes apparent that the Speaker of His Word bequeaths life unto life and death
unto death. 2 Cor. 2:15-17; Lk. 2:34; Jn. 6:39; 1 Pet. 2:7,8

we then should not be surprised that there is no proof of God which the Atheist will
accept simply because we told him so. Creation is all around us everyday, before our
eyes, but as far as the Atheist is concerned, the Living God certainly did not create it.
though the elements of the Periodic Table are not alive and the elements of the Periodic
Table constitute the human body, such tells the elect life comes from the Living God. but
the Atheist, born into sin and darkness not removed, does not see this. why ? because he
is a work " judged already " in times past chosen not to believe. Jn 3:18; 2 Cor. 4:3.

the Atheist is not outwardly terrified but arrogant about his position that there is no
God to answer to. out of the abundance of his heart his mouth speaks cursing toward the
Living God and the messenger's of His gospel. this certainly defines he is one of the
many on the path which leads to destruction.

Atheism then, is a matter in which those without Light come to know there is no Light
because the Truth does not benefit them. Jn. 1:5; 3:19
duke
2009-12-15 12:20:56 UTC
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Post by old man joe
and He indeed send's delusion on them as we read in 1 Ki. 22:22; Ez. 14:9; 2 Thes. 2:1-12.
You and your Jewish/protest_ers friends might believe that from the Jewish
parts. But it's not true for 2 Thes 2:1-12 in the Christian bible.

The Dukester, American-American
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Gary Eickmeier
2009-12-15 12:59:03 UTC
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Old Man -

I have some sad news for you - plurals are not formed by adding apostrophe
S. I have a hard time reading this pap because of so many third grade
errors. PLEASE become literate before proselytizing.

Gary Eickmeier
Post by old man joe
it's interesting to realize the extent of the delusion God says He send's on unbeliever's.
and He indeed send's delusion on them as we read in 1 Ki. 22:22; Ez. 14:9; 2 Thes. 2:1-12.
the heart's of those against God begin their life against Him from birth, ( Ps. 58:3 )
they do so not of their free will but of what is imposed by God on all of mankind because
of the sin of Adam. everyone is born estranged from God unless the Living God intervenes
giving someone of His choice life and the faith of Jesus Christ. Eph. 1:3-12
the Bible word " estranged " in Ps. 58:3 means to be a stranger... Paul illustrates this
in Eph. 2:12 when he tells us that even the elect of God were once dead in trespasses and
sins, stranger's from all of God's covenants of promise, alien's having no hope, as well
as coming into this world at birth as " atheos "... atheists... rendered " without God. "
mighty is the condemnation placed upon man as he comes into world at birth.
how then, since sin is the darkness with which man is born into the world, it being the
vehicle by which the Atheist understands the world around him, how then will he ever come
to accept the truth of God ? he comes into this world as an alien and goes out as an
alien bypassed for the saving grace of God in Christ... of course he will accept no proof
of God though the Living God should appear to him face to face... remember that Jesus
Christ, Emmanuel... God with us... walked the earth and many have seen Him, the Living
God, face to face which profited them nothing... as with Judas.
all the words of life eternal that were heard by the eleven were heard also by Judas. no
power to save by these many words of Christ were ever applied to Judas.
as with all
Atheist's, Judas was one of whom the Word of God had no life changing power. and since the
same Word of God has power to change lives in those who's names He's written in His Book
of Life, it is assured that some perish by the Word while other's who are chosen believe
unto life by the same Word as we read in Acts 13:14-48.
it then becomes apparent that the Speaker of His Word bequeaths life unto life and death
unto death. 2 Cor. 2:15-17; Lk. 2:34; Jn. 6:39; 1 Pet. 2:7,8
we then should not be surprised that there is no proof of God which the Atheist will
accept simply because we told him so. Creation is all around us everyday, before our
eyes, but as far as the Atheist is concerned, the Living God certainly did not create it.
though the elements of the Periodic Table are not alive and the elements of the Periodic
Table constitute the human body, such tells the elect life comes from the Living God. but
the Atheist, born into sin and darkness not removed, does not see this.
why ? because he
is a work " judged already " in times past chosen not to believe. Jn 3:18; 2 Cor. 4:3.
the Atheist is not outwardly terrified but arrogant about his position that there is no
God to answer to. out of the abundance of his heart his mouth speaks cursing toward the
Living God and the messenger's of His gospel. this certainly defines he is one of the
many on the path which leads to destruction.
Atheism then, is a matter in which those without Light come to know there is no Light
because the Truth does not benefit them. Jn. 1:5; 3:19
Steve Hayes
2009-12-16 04:09:32 UTC
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On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 05:19:47 -0500, old man joe <***@yahoo.com> wrote:

On Tue, 15 Dec 2009 05:19:32 -0500, old man joe <***@yahoo.com> wrote:


Is "old man joe" a spammer and a drive-by troll, never waiting to read any
responses to his posts?
seeing as Mary has been for centuries made out to be a Goddess by certain denominations it
And which denominations might those be?

Old man joe has never responded.
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The instruments of the churl are evil: he deviseth
wicked devices to destroy the poor with lying words,
even when the needy speaketh right.
But the liberal deviseth liberal things;
and by liberal things shall he stand (Isaiah 32:7-8).
Gary Eickmeier
2009-12-16 12:54:07 UTC
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Post by Steve Hayes
Is "old man joe" a spammer and a drive-by troll, never waiting to read any
responses to his posts?
seeing as Mary has been for centuries made out to be a Goddess by certain denominations it
And which denominations might those be?
Old man joe has never responded.
Apparently, he is not a responder. Just a spam bot.

Gary Eickmeier

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