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Statues of Mary depict the image as treading down the snake in the Garden thereby overthrowing Christ as Conquerer.
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old man joe
2010-05-13 10:36:26 UTC
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where did Mary worship come from as far as human concoctions go ? here's a little tid bit someone
has on the internet...

" Bishop Alphonse de Ligouri is more responsible than any other for promoting the worship of Mary,
therefore dethroning Christ and enthroning Mary in the hearts of the people. Rather than
excommunicating him for his heresies, the Catholic Church canonized him as a saint and published his
book, called "The Glories of Mary," which is famous, influential, and widely read. He noted that
Mary was given rulership over one half of the kingdom of God and rules over the kingdom of mercy
while Jesus rules over the kingdom of justice. He wrote that people should pray to Mary as a
mediator and look to her as an object of trust for answered prayer. "

an excerpt from a Catholic theologian states...

" Mary is the spouse of the Holy Spirit and she is to be honored as the wife of the Holy Spirit.
"

this and lots more make Mary deity in the eyes of the lost. she is called by the Catholic's " the
Queen of heaven "... which is nothing more than Asherah worship brought to Rome from the goddess
worshiping Babylonians. it caught on because unsaved man will worship whatever Satan his god tells
him to. Jn. 8:44

since the Roman Catholic church teaches that the Holy Scriptures alone are not the only rule of
faith and practice, that is, with the addition of many extra books included in their Bible, but also
that of proclamations from their Popes are as worthy as Holy Scripture because the popes think
themselves infallible.

there are plenty of photographs on the internet with Popes praying to statues of Mary...
infallible idol worship as a way to salvation. there are also plenty of photographs of the Pope of
that time kissing up to the Nazis... can Satan cast out Satan ?

so here we have statues of Mary treading the snake in the Garden of Eden with an apple in its
mouth as though Mary conquers Satan. which is right in line with goddess worship...

goddesses have no children, they are Divine... Catholics preach Mary had no other
children, quiet the contrary to Mk.6:3. Mary had at least 6 other children.

goddesses have no sin... hence the idea of the Immaculate Conception.

goddesses can not die as we mere humans... hence the idea of the Glorious Assumption.

goddesses where crowns... statues of Mary have kingly crowns.

goddesses have supernatural power's... hence the many " miracles " reported by none other than
Catholics.

the Bible records Mary as saying... " And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior. "
Lk. 1:47. Mary knew very well she was a sinner needing a Savior. the Catholics, on the other hand,
have kept the goddess idea alive for centuries. they worship Mary who they say was sinless because
they think they are sinless.

we also know from Holy Scripture that " As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. " Ro. 3:10,11.
that includes Mary, the goddess deity of the spiritually dead. humans are not equal to God and it
surely does not come from the Living God that we are to worship people.

goddess self-worship began with Eve in the Garden when she gave her heart to Satan who convinced
her she would " be like God. " this idea appealed greatly to her, as well as to the Popes who think
they speak infallibly with the authority of God. this is why you will never hear a Pope expound the
Holy Scriptures in areas that conflict with their edicts... they think they are above the Holy
Scriptures... they hate to have their flock reading the Holy Scriptures because the flock will find
fantastic blasphemes spewing from the mouths of their Popes and pastors and Catechisms when compared
to Holy Scripture.

the icons of Babylon are in virtually every Catholic home world wide. a Catholic would be out of
place in heaven since there are no idols there. they would rejoice to bring hell up to heaven and
worship Mary there as well. do you really think the God of the Bible would allow in heaven the
worship of created beings rather than Himself ?
BAB
2010-05-13 19:40:12 UTC
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  where did Mary worship come from as far as human concoctions go ?  here's a little tid bit someone
has on the internet...
  " Bishop Alphonse de Ligouri is more responsible than any other for promoting the worship of Mary,
therefore dethroning Christ and enthroning Mary in the hearts of the people. Rather than
excommunicating him for his heresies, the Catholic Church canonized him as a saint and published his
book, called "The Glories of Mary," which is famous, influential, and widely read. He noted that
Mary was given rulership over one half of the kingdom of God and rules over the kingdom of mercy
while Jesus rules over the kingdom of justice. He wrote that people should pray to Mary as a
mediator and look to her as an object of trust for answered prayer. "
  an excerpt from a Catholic theologian states...
  " Mary is the spouse of the Holy Spirit and she is to be honored as the wife of the Holy Spirit.
"
  this and lots more make Mary deity in the eyes of the lost.  she is called by the Catholic's " the
Queen of heaven "... which is nothing more than Asherah worship brought to Rome from the goddess
worshiping Babylonians.  it caught on because unsaved man will worship whatever Satan his god tells
him to.  Jn. 8:44
  since the Roman Catholic church teaches that the Holy Scriptures alone are not the only rule of
faith and practice, that is, with the addition of many extra books included in their Bible, but also
that of proclamations from their Popes are as worthy as Holy Scripture because the popes think
themselves infallible.  
  there are plenty of photographs on the internet with Popes praying to statues of Mary...
infallible idol worship as a way to salvation.  there are also plenty of photographs of the Pope of
that time kissing up to the Nazis... can Satan cast out Satan ?
  so here we have statues of Mary treading the snake in the Garden of Eden with an apple in its
mouth as though Mary conquers Satan.  which is right in line with goddess worship...
  goddesses have no children, they are Divine...  Catholics preach Mary had no other
children, quiet the contrary to Mk.6:3.  Mary had at least 6 other children.
  goddesses have no sin... hence the idea of the Immaculate Conception.
  goddesses can not die as we mere humans... hence the idea of the Glorious Assumption.
  goddesses where crowns... statues of Mary have kingly crowns.
  goddesses have supernatural power's... hence the many " miracles " reported by none other than
Catholics.
  the Bible records Mary as saying... " And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior. "
Lk. 1:47.  Mary knew very well she was a sinner needing a Savior.  the Catholics, on the other hand,
have kept the goddess idea alive for centuries.  they worship Mary who they say was sinless because
they think they are sinless.
There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. "  Ro. 3:10,11.  
that includes Mary, the goddess deity of the spiritually dead.  humans are not equal to God and it
surely does not come from the Living God that we are to worship people.
  goddess self-worship began with Eve in the Garden when she gave her heart to Satan who convinced
her she would " be like God. "  this idea appealed greatly to her, as well as to the Popes who think
they speak infallibly with the authority of God.  this is why you will never hear a Pope expound the
Holy Scriptures in areas that conflict with their edicts... they think they are above the Holy
Scriptures... they hate to have their flock reading the Holy Scriptures because the flock will find
fantastic blasphemes spewing from the mouths of their Popes and pastors and Catechisms when compared
to Holy Scripture.
  the icons of Babylon are in virtually every Catholic home world wide.  a Catholic would be out of
place in heaven since there are no idols there.  they would rejoice to bring hell up to heaven and
worship Mary there as well.  do you really think the God of the Bible would allow in heaven the
worship of created beings rather than Himself ?
You should become more familiar with your Bible!
Read Genesis 3:15, considered the first announcement of the Good News
of Salvation in Christian context.
•R.L.Measures
2010-05-13 21:54:16 UTC
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=A0 where did Mary worship come from as far as human concoctions go ? =A0=
here's a little tid bit someone
has on the internet...
=A0 " Bishop Alphonse de Ligouri is more responsible than any other for p=
romoting the worship of Mary,
therefore dethroning Christ and enthroning Mary in the hearts of the peop=
le. Rather than
excommunicating him for his heresies, the Catholic Church canonized him a=
s a saint and published his
book, called "The Glories of Mary," which is famous, influential, and wid=
ely read. He noted that
Mary was given rulership over one half of the kingdom of God and rules ov=
er the kingdom of mercy
while Jesus rules over the kingdom of justice. He wrote that people shoul=
d pray to Mary as a
mediator and look to her as an object of trust for answered prayer. "
=A0 an excerpt from a Catholic theologian states...
=A0 " Mary is the spouse of the Holy Spirit and she is to be honored as t=
he wife of the Holy Spirit.
"
=A0 this and lots more make Mary deity in the eyes of the lost. =A0she is=
called by the Catholic's " the
Queen of heaven "... which is nothing more than Asherah worship brought t=
o Rome from the goddess
worshiping Babylonians. =A0it caught on because unsaved man will worship =
whatever Satan his god tells
him to. =A0Jn. 8:44
=A0 since the Roman Catholic church teaches that the Holy Scriptures alon=
e are not the only rule of
faith and practice, that is, with the addition of many extra books includ=
ed in their Bible, but also
that of proclamations from their Popes are as worthy as Holy Scripture be=
cause the popes think
themselves infallible. =A0
=A0 there are plenty of photographs on the internet with Popes praying to=
statues of Mary...
infallible idol worship as a way to salvation. =A0there are also plenty o=
f photographs of the Pope of
that time kissing up to the Nazis... can Satan cast out Satan ?
=A0 so here we have statues of Mary treading the snake in the Garden of E=
den with an apple in its
mouth as though Mary conquers Satan. =A0which is right in line with godde=
ss worship...
=A0 goddesses have no children, they are Divine... =A0Catholics preach Ma=
ry had no other
children, quiet the contrary to Mk.6:3. =A0Mary had at least 6 other chil=
dren.
=A0 goddesses have no sin... hence the idea of the Immaculate Conception.
=A0 goddesses can not die as we mere humans... hence the idea of the Glor=
ious Assumption.
=A0 goddesses where crowns... statues of Mary have kingly crowns.
=A0 goddesses have supernatural power's... hence the many " miracles " re=
ported by none other than
Catholics.
=A0 the Bible records Mary as saying... " And my spirit has rejoiced in G=
od my Savior. "
Lk. 1:47. =A0Mary knew very well she was a sinner needing a Savior. =A0th=
e Catholics, on the other hand,
have kept the goddess idea alive for centuries. =A0they worship Mary who =
they say was sinless because
they think they are sinless.
=A0 we also know from Holy Scripture that " As it is written, There is no=
There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. "=
=A0Ro. 3:10,11. =A0
that includes Mary, the goddess deity of the spiritually dead. =A0humans =
are not equal to God and it
surely does not come from the Living God that we are to worship people.
=A0 goddess self-worship began with Eve in the Garden when she gave her h=
eart to Satan who convinced
her she would " be like God. " =A0this idea appealed greatly to her, as w=
ell as to the Popes who think
they speak infallibly with the authority of God. =A0this is why you will =
never hear a Pope expound the
Holy Scriptures in areas that conflict with their edicts... they think th=
ey are above the Holy
Scriptures... they hate to have their flock reading the Holy Scriptures b=
ecause the flock will find
fantastic blasphemes spewing from the mouths of their Popes and pastors a=
nd Catechisms when compared
to Holy Scripture.
=A0 the icons of Babylon are in virtually every Catholic home world wide.=
=A0a Catholic would be out of
place in heaven since there are no idols there. =A0they would rejoice to =
bring hell up to heaven and
worship Mary there as well. =A0do you really think the God of the Bible w=
ould allow in heaven the
worship of created beings rather than Himself ?
You should become more familiar with your Bible!
Read Genesis 3:15, considered the first announcement of the Good News
of Salvation in Christian context.
** Genesis is quite obviously a man-made document.
--
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RWKnapp
2010-05-14 01:26:46 UTC
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=A0 where did Mary worship come from as far as human concoctions go ? =A0=
here's a little tid bit someone
has on the internet...
=A0 " Bishop Alphonse de Ligouri is more responsible than any other for p=
romoting the worship of Mary,
therefore dethroning Christ and enthroning Mary in the hearts of the peop=
le. Rather than
excommunicating him for his heresies, the Catholic Church canonized him a=
s a saint and published his
book, called "The Glories of Mary," which is famous, influential, and wid=
ely read. He noted that
Mary was given rulership over one half of the kingdom of God and rules ov=
er the kingdom of mercy
while Jesus rules over the kingdom of justice. He wrote that people shoul=
d pray to Mary as a
mediator and look to her as an object of trust for answered prayer. "
=A0 an excerpt from a Catholic theologian states...
=A0 " Mary is the spouse of the Holy Spirit and she is to be honored as t=
he wife of the Holy Spirit.
"
=A0 this and lots more make Mary deity in the eyes of the lost. =A0she is=
 called by the Catholic's " the
Queen of heaven "... which is nothing more than Asherah worship brought t=
o Rome from the goddess
worshiping Babylonians. =A0it caught on because unsaved man will worship =
whatever Satan his god tells
him to. =A0Jn. 8:44
=A0 since the Roman Catholic church teaches that the Holy Scriptures alon=
e are not the only rule of
faith and practice, that is, with the addition of many extra books includ=
ed in their Bible, but also
that of proclamations from their Popes are as worthy as Holy Scripture be=
cause the popes think
themselves infallible. =A0
=A0 there are plenty of photographs on the internet with Popes praying to=
 statues of Mary...
infallible idol worship as a way to salvation. =A0there are also plenty o=
f photographs of the Pope of
that time kissing up to the Nazis... can Satan cast out Satan ?
=A0 so here we have statues of Mary treading the snake in the Garden of E=
den with an apple in its
mouth as though Mary conquers Satan. =A0which is right in line with godde=
ss worship...
=A0 goddesses have no children, they are Divine... =A0Catholics preach Ma=
ry had no other
children, quiet the contrary to Mk.6:3. =A0Mary had at least 6 other chil=
dren.
=A0 goddesses have no sin... hence the idea of the Immaculate Conception.
=A0 goddesses can not die as we mere humans... hence the idea of the Glor=
ious Assumption.
=A0 goddesses where crowns... statues of Mary have kingly crowns.
=A0 goddesses have supernatural power's... hence the many " miracles " re=
ported by none other than
Catholics.
=A0 the Bible records Mary as saying... " And my spirit has rejoiced in G=
od my Savior. "
Lk. 1:47. =A0Mary knew very well she was a sinner needing a Savior. =A0th=
e Catholics, on the other hand,
have kept the goddess idea alive for centuries. =A0they worship Mary who =
they say was sinless because
they think they are sinless.
=A0 we also know from Holy Scripture that " As it is written, There is no=
There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. "=
 =A0Ro. 3:10,11. =A0
that includes Mary, the goddess deity of the spiritually dead. =A0humans =
are not equal to God and it
surely does not come from the Living God that we are to worship people.
=A0 goddess self-worship began with Eve in the Garden when she gave her h=
eart to Satan who convinced
her she would " be like God. " =A0this idea appealed greatly to her, as w=
ell as to the Popes who think
they speak infallibly with the authority of God. =A0this is why you will =
never hear a Pope expound the
Holy Scriptures in areas that conflict with their edicts... they think th=
ey are above the Holy
Scriptures... they hate to have their flock reading the Holy Scriptures b=
ecause the flock will find
fantastic blasphemes spewing from the mouths of their Popes and pastors a=
nd Catechisms when compared
to Holy Scripture.
=A0 the icons of Babylon are in virtually every Catholic home world wide.=
 =A0a Catholic would be out of
place in heaven since there are no idols there. =A0they would rejoice to =
bring hell up to heaven and
worship Mary there as well. =A0do you really think the God of the Bible w=
ould allow in heaven the
worship of created beings rather than Himself ?
You should become more familiar with your Bible!
Read Genesis 3:15, considered the first announcement of the Good News
of Salvation in Christian context.
**  Genesis is quite obviously a man-made document.
ALL documents are man-made, spirits do not have a body to write a
document down with. Every document is man made even it printed on a
printer or transferred by wire etc. man is behind all documents. God
can tell people what to write, but it is man that made the documents.
It does not take a rocket sciences to know that.

Raymond
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here's a little tid bit someone
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=3DA0 " Bishop Alphonse de Ligouri is more responsible than any other=
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romoting the worship of Mary,
therefore dethroning Christ and enthroning Mary in the hearts of the =
peop=3D
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le. Rather than
excommunicating him for his heresies, the Catholic Church canonized h=
im a=3D
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s a saint and published his
book, called "The Glories of Mary," which is famous, influential, and=
wid=3D
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ely read. He noted that
Mary was given rulership over one half of the kingdom of God and rule=
s ov=3D
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er the kingdom of mercy
while Jesus rules over the kingdom of justice. He wrote that people s=
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d pray to Mary as a
mediator and look to her as an object of trust for answered prayer. "
=3DA0 an excerpt from a Catholic theologian states...
=3DA0 " Mary is the spouse of the Holy Spirit and she is to be honore=
d as t=3D
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he wife of the Holy Spirit.
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=3DA0 this and lots more make Mary deity in the eyes of the lost. =3D=
A0she is=3D
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=A0called by the Catholic's " the
Queen of heaven "... which is nothing more than Asherah worship broug=
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worshiping Babylonians. =3DA0it caught on because unsaved man will wo=
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=3DA0 goddesses can not die as we mere humans... hence the idea of th=
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ell as to the Popes who think
they speak infallibly with the authority of God. =3DA0this is why you=
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Holy Scriptures in areas that conflict with their edicts... they thin=
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ey are above the Holy
Scriptures... they hate to have their flock reading the Holy Scriptur=
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nd Catechisms when compared
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=3DA0 the icons of Babylon are in virtually every Catholic home world=
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=A0=3DA0a Catholic would be out of
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bring hell up to heaven and
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ould allow in heaven the
worship of created beings rather than Himself ?
You should become more familiar with your Bible!
Read Genesis 3:15, considered the first announcement of the Good News
of Salvation in Christian context.
** =A0Genesis is quite obviously a man-made document.
ALL documents are man-made, spirits do not have a body to write a
document down with. Every document is man made even it printed on a
printer or transferred by wire etc. man is behind all documents. God
can tell people what to write, but it is man that made the documents.
It does not take a rocket sciences to know that.
** Good point Raymond. So when I say something viscous about the one
true church, I am not at all to be believed when I claim that "The Devil
made me say it"?

cheers
Raymond
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here's a little tid bit someone
has on the internet...
=3DA0 " Bishop Alphonse de Ligouri is more responsible than any other=
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romoting the worship of Mary,
therefore dethroning Christ and enthroning Mary in the hearts of the =
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le. Rather than
excommunicating him for his heresies, the Catholic Church canonized h=
im a=3D
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s a saint and published his
book, called "The Glories of Mary," which is famous, influential, and=
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ely read. He noted that
Mary was given rulership over one half of the kingdom of God and rule=
s ov=3D
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er the kingdom of mercy
while Jesus rules over the kingdom of justice. He wrote that people s=
houl=3D
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d pray to Mary as a
mediator and look to her as an object of trust for answered prayer. "
=3DA0 an excerpt from a Catholic theologian states...
=3DA0 " Mary is the spouse of the Holy Spirit and she is to be honore=
d as t=3D
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he wife of the Holy Spirit.
"
=3DA0 this and lots more make Mary deity in the eyes of the lost. =3D=
A0she is=3D
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=A0called by the Catholic's " the
Queen of heaven "... which is nothing more than Asherah worship broug=
ht t=3D
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o Rome from the goddess
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they say was sinless because
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are not equal to God and it
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ey are above the Holy
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nd Catechisms when compared
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=A0=3DA0a Catholic would be out of
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bring hell up to heaven and
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ould allow in heaven the
worship of created beings rather than Himself ?
You should become more familiar with your Bible!
Read Genesis 3:15, considered the first announcement of the Good News
of Salvation in Christian context.
** =A0Genesis is quite obviously a man-made document.
ALL documents are man-made, spirits do not have a body to write a
document down with.  Every document is man made even it printed on a
printer or transferred by wire etc. man is behind all documents.   God
can tell people what to write, but it is man that made the documents.
It does not take a rocket sciences to know that.
**  Good point Raymond.  So when I say something viscous about the one
true church, I am not at all to be believed when I claim that "The Devil
made me say it"?
Well I know people that do say that. and I have said that in the past
also, the devil made me do it. Then one thing for sure few will say
Jesus made me do it. Some should say I made me do it, let the buck
stop here.

Cheers,

Raymond
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Raymond
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d pray to Mary as a
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he wife of the Holy Spirit.
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ould allow in heaven the
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of Salvation in Christian context.
** =3DA0Genesis is quite obviously a man-made document.
ALL documents are man-made, spirits do not have a body to write a
document down with. =A0Every document is man made even it printed on a
printer or transferred by wire etc. man is behind all documents. =A0 Go=
d
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can tell people what to write, but it is man that made the documents.
It does not take a rocket sciences to know that.
** =A0Good point Raymond. =A0So when I say something viscous about the on=
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true church, I am not at all to be believed when I claim that "The Devil
made me say it"?
Well I know people that do say that. and I have said that in the past
also, the devil made me do it. Then one thing for sure few will say
Jesus made me do it. Some should say I made me do it, let the buck
stop here.
** the truth is that nothing hurts as much as the awful truth.

cheers Raymond.
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ALL documents are man-made, spirits do not have a body to write a
document down with. Every document is man made even it printed on a
printer or transferred by wire etc. man is behind all documents. God
can tell people what to write, but it is man that made the documents.
It does not take a rocket sciences to know that.
If god were the omnipotent god constantly presented, then he wouldn't need
humans as a medium to write down words. He should be able to do like he did
with that Mosaic tablet, boom, it's written down. And if he did that, he'd
write down what he meant instead of the inconsistencies in the bible
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=A0 where did Mary worship come from as far as human concoctions go ? =A0=
here's a little tid bit someone
has on the internet...
=A0 " Bishop Alphonse de Ligouri is more responsible than any other for p=
romoting the worship of Mary,
therefore dethroning Christ and enthroning Mary in the hearts of the peop=
le. Rather than
excommunicating him for his heresies, the Catholic Church canonized him a=
s a saint and published his
book, called "The Glories of Mary," which is famous, influential, and wid=
ely read. He noted that
Mary was given rulership over one half of the kingdom of God and rules ov=
er the kingdom of mercy
while Jesus rules over the kingdom of justice. He wrote that people shoul=
d pray to Mary as a
mediator and look to her as an object of trust for answered prayer. "
=A0 an excerpt from a Catholic theologian states...
=A0 " Mary is the spouse of the Holy Spirit and she is to be honored as t=
he wife of the Holy Spirit.
"
=A0 this and lots more make Mary deity in the eyes of the lost. =A0she is=
 called by the Catholic's " the
Queen of heaven "... which is nothing more than Asherah worship brought t=
o Rome from the goddess
worshiping Babylonians. =A0it caught on because unsaved man will worship =
whatever Satan his god tells
him to. =A0Jn. 8:44
=A0 since the Roman Catholic church teaches that the Holy Scriptures alon=
e are not the only rule of
faith and practice, that is, with the addition of many extra books includ=
ed in their Bible, but also
that of proclamations from their Popes are as worthy as Holy Scripture be=
cause the popes think
themselves infallible. =A0
=A0 there are plenty of photographs on the internet with Popes praying to=
 statues of Mary...
infallible idol worship as a way to salvation. =A0there are also plenty o=
f photographs of the Pope of
that time kissing up to the Nazis... can Satan cast out Satan ?
=A0 so here we have statues of Mary treading the snake in the Garden of E=
den with an apple in its
mouth as though Mary conquers Satan. =A0which is right in line with godde=
ss worship...
=A0 goddesses have no children, they are Divine... =A0Catholics preach Ma=
ry had no other
children, quiet the contrary to Mk.6:3. =A0Mary had at least 6 other chil=
dren.
=A0 goddesses have no sin... hence the idea of the Immaculate Conception.
=A0 goddesses can not die as we mere humans... hence the idea of the Glor=
ious Assumption.
=A0 goddesses where crowns... statues of Mary have kingly crowns.
=A0 goddesses have supernatural power's... hence the many " miracles " re=
ported by none other than
Catholics.
=A0 the Bible records Mary as saying... " And my spirit has rejoiced in G=
od my Savior. "
Lk. 1:47. =A0Mary knew very well she was a sinner needing a Savior. =A0th=
e Catholics, on the other hand,
have kept the goddess idea alive for centuries. =A0they worship Mary who =
they say was sinless because
they think they are sinless.
=A0 we also know from Holy Scripture that " As it is written, There is no=
There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. "=
 =A0Ro. 3:10,11. =A0
that includes Mary, the goddess deity of the spiritually dead. =A0humans =
are not equal to God and it
surely does not come from the Living God that we are to worship people.
=A0 goddess self-worship began with Eve in the Garden when she gave her h=
eart to Satan who convinced
her she would " be like God. " =A0this idea appealed greatly to her, as w=
ell as to the Popes who think
they speak infallibly with the authority of God. =A0this is why you will =
never hear a Pope expound the
Holy Scriptures in areas that conflict with their edicts... they think th=
ey are above the Holy
Scriptures... they hate to have their flock reading the Holy Scriptures b=
ecause the flock will find
fantastic blasphemes spewing from the mouths of their Popes and pastors a=
nd Catechisms when compared
to Holy Scripture.
=A0 the icons of Babylon are in virtually every Catholic home world wide.=
 =A0a Catholic would be out of
place in heaven since there are no idols there. =A0they would rejoice to =
bring hell up to heaven and
worship Mary there as well. =A0do you really think the God of the Bible w=
ould allow in heaven the
worship of created beings rather than Himself ?
You should become more familiar with your Bible!
Read Genesis 3:15, considered the first announcement of the Good News
of Salvation in Christian context.
**  Genesis is quite obviously a man-made document.
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You'll have to try at least a little; that's irrelevant to the
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making it part of Tradition.
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mediator and look to her as an object of trust for answered prayer. "
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whatever Satan his god tells
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cause the popes think
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=A0statues of Mary...
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f photographs of the Pope of
that time kissing up to the Nazis... can Satan cast out Satan ?
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den with an apple in its
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ss worship...
=3DA0 goddesses have no children, they are Divine... =3DA0Catholics p=
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ry had no other
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dren.
=3DA0 goddesses have no sin... hence the idea of the Immaculate Conce=
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=3DA0 goddesses can not die as we mere humans... hence the idea of th=
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ious Assumption.
=3DA0 goddesses where crowns... statues of Mary have kingly crowns.
=3DA0 goddesses have supernatural power's... hence the many " miracle=
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ported by none other than
Catholics.
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od my Savior. "
Lk. 1:47. =3DA0Mary knew very well she was a sinner needing a Savior.=
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e Catholics, on the other hand,
have kept the goddess idea alive for centuries. =3DA0they worship Mar=
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they say was sinless because
they think they are sinless.
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=A0=3DA0Ro. 3:10,11. =3DA0
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are not equal to God and it
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eart to Satan who convinced
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ell as to the Popes who think
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ey are above the Holy
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nd Catechisms when compared
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=A0=3DA0a Catholic would be out of
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bring hell up to heaven and
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ould allow in heaven the
worship of created beings rather than Himself ?
You should become more familiar with your Bible!
Read Genesis 3:15, considered the first announcement of the Good News
of Salvation in Christian context.
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You'll have to try at least a little; that's irrelevant to the
discussion. The verse contains the crushing the serpent head imagery
making it part of Tradition.
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  where did Mary worship come from as far as human concoctions go ?  here's a little tid bit someone
has on the internet...
  " Bishop Alphonse de Ligouri is more responsible than any other for promoting the worship of Mary,
therefore dethroning Christ and enthroning Mary in the hearts of the people. Rather than
excommunicating him for his heresies, the Catholic Church canonized him as a saint and published his
book, called "The Glories of Mary," which is famous, influential, and widely read. He noted that
Mary was given rulership over one half of the kingdom of God and rules over the kingdom of mercy
while Jesus rules over the kingdom of justice. He wrote that people should pray to Mary as a
mediator and look to her as an object of trust for answered prayer. "
  an excerpt from a Catholic theologian states...
  " Mary is the spouse of the Holy Spirit and she is to be honored as the wife of the Holy Spirit.
"
  this and lots more make Mary deity in the eyes of the lost.  she is called by the Catholic's " the
Queen of heaven "... which is nothing more than Asherah worship brought to Rome from the goddess
worshiping Babylonians.  it caught on because unsaved man will worship whatever Satan his god tells
him to.  Jn. 8:44
  since the Roman Catholic church teaches that the Holy Scriptures alone are not the only rule of
faith and practice, that is, with the addition of many extra books included in their Bible, but also
that of proclamations from their Popes are as worthy as Holy Scripture because the popes think
themselves infallible.  
  there are plenty of photographs on the internet with Popes praying to statues of Mary...
infallible idol worship as a way to salvation.  there are also plenty of photographs of the Pope of
that time kissing up to the Nazis... can Satan cast out Satan ?
  so here we have statues of Mary treading the snake in the Garden of Eden with an apple in its
mouth as though Mary conquers Satan.  which is right in line with goddess worship...
  goddesses have no children, they are Divine...  Catholics preach Mary had no other
children, quiet the contrary to Mk.6:3.  Mary had at least 6 other children.
  goddesses have no sin... hence the idea of the Immaculate Conception.
  goddesses can not die as we mere humans... hence the idea of the Glorious Assumption.
  goddesses where crowns... statues of Mary have kingly crowns.
  goddesses have supernatural power's... hence the many " miracles " reported by none other than
Catholics.
  the Bible records Mary as saying... " And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior. "
Lk. 1:47.  Mary knew very well she was a sinner needing a Savior.  the Catholics, on the other hand,
have kept the goddess idea alive for centuries.  they worship Mary who they say was sinless because
they think they are sinless.
There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. "  Ro. 3:10,11.  
that includes Mary, the goddess deity of the spiritually dead.  humans are not equal to God and it
surely does not come from the Living God that we are to worship people.
  goddess self-worship began with Eve in the Garden when she gave her heart to Satan who convinced
her she would " be like God. "  this idea appealed greatly to her, as well as to the Popes who think
they speak infallibly with the authority of God.  this is why you will never hear a Pope expound the
Holy Scriptures in areas that conflict with their edicts... they think they are above the Holy
Scriptures... they hate to have their flock reading the Holy Scriptures because the flock will find
fantastic blasphemes spewing from the mouths of their Popes and pastors and Catechisms when compared
to Holy Scripture.
  the icons of Babylon are in virtually every Catholic home world wide.  a Catholic would be out of
place in heaven since there are no idols there.  they would rejoice to bring hell up to heaven and
worship Mary there as well.  do you really think the God of the Bible would allow in heaven the
worship of created beings rather than Himself ?
You should become more familiar with your Bible!
Read Genesis 3:15, considered the first announcement of the Good News
of Salvation in Christian context.
as with all idol worshipers / people worshipers who quote Gen. 3:15, no mention of Mary is found
there. neither does Eve tread the snake. Christ does, unless of course you worship bags of plaster
fashion into the Gentile faced graven image of the female goddess deity you're protecting.
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  where did Mary worship come from as far as human concoctions go ?
 here's a little tid bit someone
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has on the internet...
  " Bishop Alphonse de Ligouri is more responsible than any other for
promoting the worship of Mary,
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therefore dethroning Christ and enthroning Mary in the hearts of the people. Rather than
excommunicating him for his heresies, the Catholic Church canonized
him as a saint and published his
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book, called "The Glories of Mary," which is famous, influential, and
widely read. He noted that
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Mary was given rulership over one half of the kingdom of God and
rules over the kingdom of mercy
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while Jesus rules over the kingdom of justice. He wrote that people
should pray to Mary as a
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mediator and look to her as an object of trust for answered prayer. "
  an excerpt from a Catholic theologian states...
  " Mary is the spouse of the Holy Spirit and she is to be honored as
the wife of the Holy Spirit.
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"
  this and lots more make Mary deity in the eyes of the lost.  she is
called by the Catholic's " the
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Post by BAB
Queen of heaven "... which is nothing more than Asherah worship
brought to Rome from the goddess
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worshiping Babylonians.  it caught on because unsaved man will
worship whatever Satan his god tells
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him to.  Jn. 8:44
  since the Roman Catholic church teaches that the Holy Scriptures
alone are not the only rule of
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faith and practice, that is, with the addition of many extra books
included in their Bible, but also
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that of proclamations from their Popes are as worthy as Holy
Scripture because the popes think
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themselves infallible.  
  there are plenty of photographs on the internet with Popes praying
to statues of Mary...
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infallible idol worship as a way to salvation.  there are also plenty
of photographs of the Pope of
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that time kissing up to the Nazis... can Satan cast out Satan ?
  so here we have statues of Mary treading the snake in the Garden of
Eden with an apple in its
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Post by BAB
mouth as though Mary conquers Satan.  which is right in line with goddess worship...
  goddesses have no children, they are Divine...  Catholics preach Mary had no other
children, quiet the contrary to Mk.6:3.  Mary had at least 6 other children.
  goddesses have no sin... hence the idea of the Immaculate Conception.
  goddesses can not die as we mere humans... hence the idea of the Glorious Assumption.
  goddesses where crowns... statues of Mary have kingly crowns.
  goddesses have supernatural power's... hence the many " miracles "
reported by none other than
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Catholics.
  the Bible records Mary as saying... " And my spirit has rejoiced in God my Savior. "
Lk. 1:47.  Mary knew very well she was a sinner needing a Savior.
 the Catholics, on the other hand,
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have kept the goddess idea alive for centuries.  they worship Mary
who they say was sinless because
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they think they are sinless.
  we also know from Holy Scripture that " As it is written, There is
There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after
God. "  Ro. 3:10,11.  
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that includes Mary, the goddess deity of the spiritually dead.
 humans are not equal to God and it
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Post by BAB
surely does not come from the Living God that we are to worship people.
  goddess self-worship began with Eve in the Garden when she gave her
heart to Satan who convinced
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Post by BAB
her she would " be like God. "  this idea appealed greatly to her, as
well as to the Popes who think
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Post by BAB
they speak infallibly with the authority of God.  this is why you
will never hear a Pope expound the
Post by old man joe
Post by BAB
Holy Scriptures in areas that conflict with their edicts... they
think they are above the Holy
Post by old man joe
Post by BAB
Scriptures... they hate to have their flock reading the Holy
Scriptures because the flock will find
Post by old man joe
Post by BAB
fantastic blasphemes spewing from the mouths of their Popes and
pastors and Catechisms when compared
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Post by BAB
to Holy Scripture.
  the icons of Babylon are in virtually every Catholic home world
wide.  a Catholic would be out of
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Post by BAB
place in heaven since there are no idols there.  they would rejoice
to bring hell up to heaven and
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Post by BAB
worship Mary there as well.  do you really think the God of the Bible
would allow in heaven the
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worship of created beings rather than Himself ?
You should become more familiar with your Bible!
Read Genesis 3:15, considered the first announcement of the Good News
of Salvation in Christian context.
as with all idol worshipers / people worshipers who quote Gen. 3:15, no
mention of Mary is found
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there. neither does Eve tread the snake. Christ does, unless of course
you worship bags of plaster
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fashion into the Gentile faced graven image of the female goddess deity you're protecting.
** Since a plaster statue is molded and not engraved, it is not a graven image.
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